I think they implied that Peter always had Sylar's power - he just didn't know how to access it. Probably it's easier to whip out flame hands or flying because he's SEEN people do these things, they're concrete and easy to conceptualize or lock onto. "Intuitive Aptitude" is a lot more subtle I guess. He needed Sylar to clue him into what it is that he's exactly looking to do. Just my take on it.
Jason Says:
October 9th, 2008 9:18 AM
I agree, Although I love the show; its is by far one of my fav's. But the writters are really pissing me off.
Please give us the exact same story as season one...
They screwed up royaly with season 2 so they knew they had to speed things up and deliver the action the viewers want and they know everyone loved season 1.
So what do they do? They put the show in hyper drive speeding threw EVERYTHING delivering only points and never having any meat between their peices of bread. I'm sorry but I think they are just moving too fast, they have set up the begining of a great season but they just rip right threw it
The question are they over using the go into the future and fight a catastrophy in the present EVERY season... YES! It is so old now... and its costa verda that explodes now? fuck, come on.
QUESTION.... Why is it Peter got Sylars power from sylar in the future and not the sylar hes enounterd a handful of times in season 1?
Eric Says:
October 9th, 2008 8:52 AM
Yes there are still other villains out there so they did not just get rid of them in the first few episodes.
And, like a few comments stated above:
1.) glad that some of these critics aren't the writers and we are lucky to have gifted writers that we do and,
2.) If you don't like the show don't come here. Are you truly heroes fanatics or do you choose to find any hole or flaw for the sake of doing so? In which most cases it doesn't end up being either anyway.
The show is back to square one and is as good if not better than season one. If you want this show to be like Lost then leave. Go buy Lost on dvd and have fun with that. Heroes is Heroes. Always has been, always will be.
Jeff Says:
October 9th, 2008 8:52 AM
I think the question is valid: Are they overusing time travel to reset time/story lines? If so, maybe it was the popularity of Season 1's "Five Years Gone" that inspired it. Everybody loved it because "whoo" we got to see Peter using two or more powers simultaneously, Hiro as a tough guy, and the start of a face off between Peter and Sylar. That future was a good teaser of what might have been, just as Peter and Caitlin's view of June 2008 was only a possible outcome.
For the time being, I'm going to trust the writers to pull everything together cleverly and neatly. Meanwhile, I thought the 10/6 episode rocked if for no other reason than Quinto's performance in the "big" scene.
Brittny Says:
October 9th, 2008 8:23 AM
this is a heroes fansite
PLZ if you think of heroes THAT
way then delete the site or stop with your
danm bad judgements and just post news
TERENCE Says:
October 9th, 2008 7:45 AM
Oh and I think there are still like 9 more villains on the loose...
TERENCE Says:
October 9th, 2008 7:43 AM
The reason why i go to this site, is to share my love for Heroes with other people.
C'mon, you guys created the site "HeroesFanatic", meaning you guys are crazy about Heroes. Why the hell are you naming out every possible flaw about Heroes?
I don't care what Season 1 was like and how Season 2 sucked, because it's Season 3 and it's great.
I come here for updates and interviews, not to listen to you drone about your favorite TV show. If you have nothing to say don't say it.
pete Says:
October 9th, 2008 12:55 AM
I was REALLY apprehensive about this season until "I am become death." Now I'm totally into it. Pete getting Sylar's power and heading straight for Nathan's brow with it was very, very interesting and I can't wait to see where they go with this. And I dig the psycho Mohinder storyline too.
The time travel stuff is fine by me - I love time travel stories and that's a lot of why I like Heroes. Granted, each of the three seasons have revolved around major catastrophes revealed via precognition then verified via time travel - sort of a conspicuous trend. I'm hoping that this particular crappy future will perhaps stick around for a while.
While the season is starting to get rolling IMO, it is still very true that they're rushing things, and glossing over much needed characterization. "One of us, one of them" was particularly bad in those respects.
P.S. --If you think Heroes' time travel stories are confusing, go rent the movie "Primer." And then watch it five times. (Cause it's one of the best sci-fi movies ever but it takes about five times to make sense out of it.)
Derek Collins Says:
October 9th, 2008 12:24 AM
Did you guys think before you wrote that? Didn't think so. The reason this show is so loved is because of its not like any other show on tv. With the time traveling and constant twists and turns make it truly a real life comic book. The Beauty of Heroes is almost all questions are usually answered but in a way that raises more questions keeping the show interesting. The time traveling is used as a sort of mechanic to be able to show all the characters in drastically different ways without having to compromise their original selves. The complication of following such a complex storyline is half the fun. just when you think you got it all straight, the one thing you forgot changes up everything.
Oh and as for the people who wish they could convey their feelings of displeasure to the writers, I suggest you stop confusing YOUR opinion with the public consensus. Everyone I know absolutely loves this season thus far. You say that Heroes is heading the wrong direction and fast, I say that is why you are bitching on the internet instead of writing TV shows.
Brittny Says:
October 8th, 2008 9:56 PM
Honestly,
you guys are the DUMBEST people on this earth
Heroes is the best show EVER you have no freaking
idea what will happen yet so stop acting like it!
Parkman going to africa is GENUIS
now we will have a hole matt and dahpnee
storyline AWESOME
I think the hole point of peter going to the future you dumb jackasses is peter getting sylar's power and us to see a diffrent part of sylar and possible change. even if sylar doesn't change good then we still have the peter/hunger storyline.
The show is amazing and their IS a reason why you are not the writers
Carl Says:
October 8th, 2008 8:28 PM
My two pence!
I personally don't think the time-travelling bit of the series is altogether that bad. Naturally future episodes are going to be more confused without any knowledge of what happened in the 4 years up to that point; a good reason to not have too many of these types of episodes. The second point regarding the ability for the writers to make it up as they go along is valid, however I have enough faith in the writers that i'm confident they are not just making it up as they go. It is quite possible we won't see Nathans rise to presidency (but similiar to Bug Mohinder) the "seeds" have been planted in the present with his acceptance of Senator, and this future has been extrapolated from that. As for Daphne/Parkman, it's quite possible that we could have a paradox thing going on here - Parkmans sees the future, and the knowledge that gathers from that - that he has to save Daphne - may lead him to create the future that he originally witnessed (sounds confusing I know). That's one possible route. As for Good Sylar, it may be that the writers are trying to show that the Good/Evil thing works both ways; in this case, who is the mother of his child is unimportant as it's more symbolic.
This is all just conjecture and could all be complete rubbish, but I have faith that this show and its writers in heading in the right direction!
In regards to making the show like Lost, one of the downsides of making each show focus on one character is there are brilliant cliffhangers at the end of one show that arent explored for 3/4 episodes (if at all)... Heroes may lack character development at times, but at least we have decent, fast-paced, reasonably internally consistent storytelling!
lilbrinkie Says:
October 8th, 2008 6:26 PM
Also, I agree with your point that they should have let the new villains stick around for the length of this chapter, but it seems that they are working to turn some of the heroes into villains, which would address the problem of too many protagonists and keep strong to the primary theme of the chapter.
lilbrinkie Says:
October 8th, 2008 6:23 PM
I agree that Heroes is continuing to head in the wrong direction, and fast. I just wish there was some way to communicate with the writers that people are displeased with this season before Fugitives gets ruined the same way. Granted, it's too late to save Villains, I just wish there was some viable way to communicate our concerns with the writers instead of sitting here and being pissed off. It's not just us few people that are displeased. I'm sure they're seeing a drop in ratings, and I don't want to see this show fall victim to getting so full of its own image that it allows itself to take whatever liberties they like with storytelling. They need to figure out how to make this show relevant to people that aren't hardcore Heroes fans, which may be their only remaining viewers come next season... if there is a next season.
why are you people bitching like that last episode was the best one ever
If you didn't like it stop watching or shut up
jesus
Eric Says:
October 8th, 2008 4:57 PM
I think that the fact that they are trying to save the world from something is great. Just think about the fact that they may continuosly be doing so because the eventual outcome is inevitable. And even if this is not the case, If there were actual "heroes/villains" today there would be catastrophes like what we see in each season, but most likely more so.
And about the open-ended future/present idea. Yes is means that the writers can go where they want, when they want. Isn't this the reason we liked the show from the get-go. We want that "wow" effect not knowing what will happen. We don't want to know what is going to happen to the T before it happens or there would be no reason to watch it.
Loving the season and I hope they stay on this fast pace and keep us guessing.
Vanessa Says:
October 8th, 2008 4:21 PM
I love Heroes how it is...and I don't think it's THAT confusing.
October 9th, 2008 3:06 PM
I think they implied that Peter always had Sylar's power - he just didn't know how to access it. Probably it's easier to whip out flame hands or flying because he's SEEN people do these things, they're concrete and easy to conceptualize or lock onto. "Intuitive Aptitude" is a lot more subtle I guess. He needed Sylar to clue him into what it is that he's exactly looking to do. Just my take on it.
October 9th, 2008 9:18 AM
I agree, Although I love the show; its is by far one of my fav's. But the writters are really pissing me off.
Please give us the exact same story as season one...
They screwed up royaly with season 2 so they knew they had to speed things up and deliver the action the viewers want and they know everyone loved season 1.
So what do they do? They put the show in hyper drive speeding threw EVERYTHING delivering only points and never having any meat between their peices of bread. I'm sorry but I think they are just moving too fast, they have set up the begining of a great season but they just rip right threw it
The question are they over using the go into the future and fight a catastrophy in the present EVERY season... YES! It is so old now... and its costa verda that explodes now? fuck, come on.
QUESTION.... Why is it Peter got Sylars power from sylar in the future and not the sylar hes enounterd a handful of times in season 1?
October 9th, 2008 8:52 AM
Yes there are still other villains out there so they did not just get rid of them in the first few episodes.
And, like a few comments stated above:
1.) glad that some of these critics aren't the writers and we are lucky to have gifted writers that we do and,
2.) If you don't like the show don't come here. Are you truly heroes fanatics or do you choose to find any hole or flaw for the sake of doing so? In which most cases it doesn't end up being either anyway.
The show is back to square one and is as good if not better than season one. If you want this show to be like Lost then leave. Go buy Lost on dvd and have fun with that. Heroes is Heroes. Always has been, always will be.
October 9th, 2008 8:52 AM
I think the question is valid: Are they overusing time travel to reset time/story lines? If so, maybe it was the popularity of Season 1's "Five Years Gone" that inspired it. Everybody loved it because "whoo" we got to see Peter using two or more powers simultaneously, Hiro as a tough guy, and the start of a face off between Peter and Sylar. That future was a good teaser of what might have been, just as Peter and Caitlin's view of June 2008 was only a possible outcome.
For the time being, I'm going to trust the writers to pull everything together cleverly and neatly. Meanwhile, I thought the 10/6 episode rocked if for no other reason than Quinto's performance in the "big" scene.
October 9th, 2008 8:23 AM
this is a heroes fansite
PLZ if you think of heroes THAT
way then delete the site or stop with your
danm bad judgements and just post news
October 9th, 2008 7:45 AM
Oh and I think there are still like 9 more villains on the loose...
October 9th, 2008 7:43 AM
The reason why i go to this site, is to share my love for Heroes with other people.
C'mon, you guys created the site "HeroesFanatic", meaning you guys are crazy about Heroes. Why the hell are you naming out every possible flaw about Heroes?
I don't care what Season 1 was like and how Season 2 sucked, because it's Season 3 and it's great.
I come here for updates and interviews, not to listen to you drone about your favorite TV show. If you have nothing to say don't say it.
October 9th, 2008 12:55 AM
I was REALLY apprehensive about this season until "I am become death." Now I'm totally into it. Pete getting Sylar's power and heading straight for Nathan's brow with it was very, very interesting and I can't wait to see where they go with this. And I dig the psycho Mohinder storyline too.
The time travel stuff is fine by me - I love time travel stories and that's a lot of why I like Heroes. Granted, each of the three seasons have revolved around major catastrophes revealed via precognition then verified via time travel - sort of a conspicuous trend. I'm hoping that this particular crappy future will perhaps stick around for a while.
While the season is starting to get rolling IMO, it is still very true that they're rushing things, and glossing over much needed characterization. "One of us, one of them" was particularly bad in those respects.
P.S. --If you think Heroes' time travel stories are confusing, go rent the movie "Primer." And then watch it five times. (Cause it's one of the best sci-fi movies ever but it takes about five times to make sense out of it.)
October 9th, 2008 12:24 AM
Did you guys think before you wrote that? Didn't think so. The reason this show is so loved is because of its not like any other show on tv. With the time traveling and constant twists and turns make it truly a real life comic book. The Beauty of Heroes is almost all questions are usually answered but in a way that raises more questions keeping the show interesting. The time traveling is used as a sort of mechanic to be able to show all the characters in drastically different ways without having to compromise their original selves. The complication of following such a complex storyline is half the fun. just when you think you got it all straight, the one thing you forgot changes up everything.
Oh and as for the people who wish they could convey their feelings of displeasure to the writers, I suggest you stop confusing YOUR opinion with the public consensus. Everyone I know absolutely loves this season thus far. You say that Heroes is heading the wrong direction and fast, I say that is why you are bitching on the internet instead of writing TV shows.
October 8th, 2008 9:56 PM
Honestly,
you guys are the DUMBEST people on this earth
Heroes is the best show EVER you have no freaking
idea what will happen yet so stop acting like it!
Parkman going to africa is GENUIS
now we will have a hole matt and dahpnee
storyline AWESOME
I think the hole point of peter going to the future you dumb jackasses is peter getting sylar's power and us to see a diffrent part of sylar and possible change. even if sylar doesn't change good then we still have the peter/hunger storyline.
The show is amazing and their IS a reason why you are not the writers
October 8th, 2008 8:28 PM
My two pence!
I personally don't think the time-travelling bit of the series is altogether that bad. Naturally future episodes are going to be more confused without any knowledge of what happened in the 4 years up to that point; a good reason to not have too many of these types of episodes. The second point regarding the ability for the writers to make it up as they go along is valid, however I have enough faith in the writers that i'm confident they are not just making it up as they go. It is quite possible we won't see Nathans rise to presidency (but similiar to Bug Mohinder) the "seeds" have been planted in the present with his acceptance of Senator, and this future has been extrapolated from that. As for Daphne/Parkman, it's quite possible that we could have a paradox thing going on here - Parkmans sees the future, and the knowledge that gathers from that - that he has to save Daphne - may lead him to create the future that he originally witnessed (sounds confusing I know). That's one possible route. As for Good Sylar, it may be that the writers are trying to show that the Good/Evil thing works both ways; in this case, who is the mother of his child is unimportant as it's more symbolic.
This is all just conjecture and could all be complete rubbish, but I have faith that this show and its writers in heading in the right direction!
In regards to making the show like Lost, one of the downsides of making each show focus on one character is there are brilliant cliffhangers at the end of one show that arent explored for 3/4 episodes (if at all)... Heroes may lack character development at times, but at least we have decent, fast-paced, reasonably internally consistent storytelling!
October 8th, 2008 6:26 PM
Also, I agree with your point that they should have let the new villains stick around for the length of this chapter, but it seems that they are working to turn some of the heroes into villains, which would address the problem of too many protagonists and keep strong to the primary theme of the chapter.
October 8th, 2008 6:23 PM
I agree that Heroes is continuing to head in the wrong direction, and fast. I just wish there was some way to communicate with the writers that people are displeased with this season before Fugitives gets ruined the same way. Granted, it's too late to save Villains, I just wish there was some viable way to communicate our concerns with the writers instead of sitting here and being pissed off. It's not just us few people that are displeased. I'm sure they're seeing a drop in ratings, and I don't want to see this show fall victim to getting so full of its own image that it allows itself to take whatever liberties they like with storytelling. They need to figure out how to make this show relevant to people that aren't hardcore Heroes fans, which may be their only remaining viewers come next season... if there is a next season.
October 8th, 2008 5:17 PM
why are you people bitching like that last episode was the best one ever
If you didn't like it stop watching or shut up
jesus
October 8th, 2008 4:57 PM
I think that the fact that they are trying to save the world from something is great. Just think about the fact that they may continuosly be doing so because the eventual outcome is inevitable. And even if this is not the case, If there were actual "heroes/villains" today there would be catastrophes like what we see in each season, but most likely more so.
And about the open-ended future/present idea. Yes is means that the writers can go where they want, when they want. Isn't this the reason we liked the show from the get-go. We want that "wow" effect not knowing what will happen. We don't want to know what is going to happen to the T before it happens or there would be no reason to watch it.
Loving the season and I hope they stay on this fast pace and keep us guessing.
October 8th, 2008 4:21 PM
I love Heroes how it is...and I don't think it's THAT confusing.