Philip.
but he would come back when the haitian leaves just like claire and sylar did in the last episode when they got their powers back.
kytheaussie Says:
December 3rd, 2008 11:11 PM
Hey! Here is a letter that was published in one of the magazines (tv week) down here in Australia. A fan had wrote in to the magazine. Keep in mind we are 2 episodes behind you guys.
"I absolutely love Heroes and don't miss an episode for anything, but recent episodes just didn't make sense to me. Sylar becoming a dad? That's just stupid and unbelievable! I also find it ridiculous that there are two Peters, with the evil one killing his own brother, before attempting to take his mother's life. Lastly, Claire killing her uncle is just plain silly. I love the show but I'm finding it hard to keep up."
Sean Says:
December 3rd, 2008 11:49 PM
This show has seriously lost its way. I agree with everything in the above comments. I am tired of tedious storylines involving characters that are no longer interesting. I once was a Sylar fan but now the character needs a rest and fresh blood should brought in. The same thing should be said for Peter, Claire, and Hiro. These characters have become selfish morons who do things on the spur of the moment not utilizing basic common sense. Out with the old and in with the new. I still do not know why everything revolves around Claire. I mean who but a selfish idiot comes to that conclusion just because the local serial killer said you was special. Hell! She is special because he could put her scalp back on and she was still alive. The characters that were interesting and had stories to tell are either killed unceremoniously or they just disappear with no rhyme and reason. Adam, Elle, Monica, Micah, Candace, are just a few notables. But we still see Maya, Suresh, Parkman, Daphne, Nathan, Tracy, and the other useless villians run around like roaming acts of uselessnes. If the writers are looking for characters to nix look at those. I for one am tired of dumbing down to get through an episode. Also Phillip, I agree Peter looks like he had a stroke or something.
Herogirl Says:
December 4th, 2008 12:52 AM
pablosplinter, i have some answers for you at least
1.that was so he could understand what to fix in the past, future peter seemed unable to dtermine what to fix and what to leave, that wouldnt be the problem for someone with inituitive aptitude
2.he hasnt go superhearing anymore but when he did he used it to hear a converstaion between matt, peter and maybe ted, bac in vol 1, and he used the touch thing in 'angels and monsters'
3. the haitianwas in that scene, but before that in 'the second coming' i'm not sure, maybe she figured that she could out play him, which was stupid but, future claire doesnt strike me as smart
4.yes, and i'm not sure what tracys point is, if they kill her off i wont care,niki was way better than her
5.on the contrary, samedi was cought off guard after the eclipse, he most likely thought that even without his powr he was untouchable, if the eclipse hadnt happend hed still be alive, and the eclipse clearly brought bac the sylar we all fell in love with, and go rid of another character we adored too, but if she comes back through some sort of turn of events that sees mohinder die intsead, we can thank the eclipse.
and i too dont know what the writers are thinking, if they read at least 1 of the above comments then theyed see they are kicking us with storylines that make sence to me but they have become so predictable that i could write the nextseason and then watch it and say: "i wrote that, and that, and that!" i still oove the show but its losing its hold in my top 3 fave shows.
i've been a fan sinse i first saw the ad, and now everytime i see the ad i have to fellings 1. the one i desperatly want to be full of 4 this show pure exitment
and 2. i hope this is better then the last on.
i think heroes is getting its mojo bac slowly but if they ever make it past vol 4 i want new charcters that (when an eclipse) comes have talents that dont rel8 to their powers. then we'll see what real heroes (and kickass villians) really look like!!!!!!!!!
Herogirl Says:
December 4th, 2008 12:57 AM
oh! and kytheaussie, i'm from aus too, and i remember reading that. heroes has still got some diehard fans in aus but as you can see even us fellow genius' down under are getting annoyed.
Joel Says:
December 4th, 2008 1:05 AM
T.T Heroes , no matter how hard the try can't get back to Season 1 glory days, although I think this season is fantastic.
herogirl Says:
December 4th, 2008 1:05 AM
oh and also pablosplinter, i think that aurther wants to give the world powers so: a. he can take them all away
b. so everyone can die and the world can have a second chance, kinda like what adam did with the virus
herogirl Says:
December 4th, 2008 1:06 AM
i too think this season is fantastic koel, but i can be improved, i never said i'd stop watchin'!!!!!!!!
herogirl Says:
December 4th, 2008 1:07 AM
sorry, joel
yolan Says:
December 4th, 2008 2:46 AM
Peters gonna slice aurthers head 2 get his ability back :D
why doesn't sylar have the superhearing ability anymore?
i was thinking of the scene where HRG asks that vortex guy( another interesting character killed off) to kill sylar and he is standing about 50 yards away and can't hear them.
people seem to be saying that sylar lost his abilities after being the first season. that doesn't make sense. how does he get his telekinesis back.
the haitian was in the scene where claire kills peter but he would just come back when he leaves.
i think the best way for peter to get his powers back is to use sylars ability which he got for some big reason and this seems to be the best one.
justr thinking what a great character hiro was in season 1. Shame.
FanOHeroes Says:
December 4th, 2008 11:51 AM
Pablosplinter - I thought Sylar still had the Superhearing ability. After that scene with Stephen Canfield (Vortex guy) and Claire, HRG and Sylar are all in the car, Sylar said he knew (heard?) HRG wanting to have Canfield Kill him? I should go back and check but just throwing it out there. I'll try to confirm that when I get a chance.
here i see that this Tv show has the most genius and intelligent fans of the world the writers have to take care a lot.they got to write a uniqe story . i hope it never goes on like another story of this style like Mortal Kombat that makes me feel sick!!!because I see many similarities in the basic materials like in both of them:
1.they must save the world.
2.there is a character who gathers the ability of the ones who he kills(here Sylar and in Mortal Kombat shung tsung!)
3.they travel through time and space and etc.
somehow in heroes there is many special points that makes the difference.I think the show is still using the credit of first season.
but as we go on the actors play their role very very better but if the changes of inner personality of the characters continues even the actors will lost the way of playing and think who is this character eventually?
HRG is the best of this view he still has his ambiguous personality and is believable.
and the most important thing is that I thought that the heroes start to think about their personality,ego and so on but they end up with just saying who they really are and some very weak answers they get .
1.Mohinder is so real because he is like each and every one of us he seeks for answers as a scientist,he watches and does nothing like us.
2.HRG is a very brave human that goes within these all with no extraordinary power like we humen facing many strange situations in our life without being prepared for it or armed for but we fight.
3.Hiro is a unique science! maybe a part of Einstein Theory, traveling in time and space in a while.
4.Adam Monroe is the history. it`s been changed maybe it`s a great lie .the hero in our history in fact is a super villain!!! the only way to get rid of him is to send him underground where it really belongs to because history never dies.
5.Nathan and Clair are wishes , dreams of human for all time , being able to fly ,being able to leave forever or stay young forever.
6.Peter is a modern super human with all the abilities he wants and wishes for he gets then all but when he goes to the future and sees what happens he comes back to save himself and others ,remember terminator?
you see all these characters are shaped very well.but when we see they have been caught in cheap stories and struggle for nothing, here we can find out why the season 1 was a unique peace of art and here these nonsense stories
jason Says:
December 4th, 2008 3:03 PM
PabloSplinter
I dont not like this and I think its absurd bullshit but here it is.
Ok according to Joe Pokaski & Aron Coliete in a "behind the eclipse" interview on Comic book resources dot com. Sylar did indeed loose his abilities to the shanti virus... all of them expect his original power and telekinesis because of the emotional trauma he went threw when he killed brian davis.
Even thou we've seen him (supposedly) use super hearing, and have seen him pregog paint and nuke texas.... Mr. Pokaski said it was because he got those powers again from other people....
personally i think that is just the greatest example of how the writers have fucked up unbelievable this season
bruce. i agree with your sentiments about the first season and agree that all of the characters were very well thought out but let down by cheap storylines. ( and that is a word which i have heard alot when describing heroes storyline- cheap).
the first season was binded together by an air of mystery which manifested itself through symbols such as the eclipse and the DNA symbol, and also through connections between all of the characters which maybe they didn't see at the time such as the linderman connection or two characters meeting the same person. it was very cleverly written because it made viewers feel clever and involved by letting them make the connection themselves and noticing things that they knew would be important later on.
in this season we are being promised a big revelation every week and then when it comes it just seems like a convenient plot device.(the eclipse)
p.s they always say that it is easier to write an origin story than a continuation.
Jason
"I dont not like this and I think its absurd bullshit"
couldn't agree more
FanOheroes- i'm not sure but i think that when HRG returns to the car Sylar says something like " you told him to kill me didn't you?" like he had worked out what was going on rather than he heard it. not sure though
John Johnson Says:
March 9th, 2009 3:35 AM
Does anyone also question how matt parkman and the kid who controls computers should have already resolved this problem ages ago? In season 2, Matt was able to beat his father when it came to dream manipulation and it was also shown that Matt had the power of suggestion. So, why doesnt Matt just tell all the cops to kill themselves or to hunt down all those involved in this situation and to kill them and then turn around and kill themselves. Problem solved. Although that would be boring and they couldn't really work off of that. So then, why not use the kid with the computer power? Technically, he could easily hack into a military computer and hold the world at his mercy through the threat of nuclear warfare. (he could use the computers and threaten to send nukes to any major cities.) I'm sure million of other people have also thought of this. So why are the characters so stupid and refuse to come up with something this simple?
December 3rd, 2008 4:44 PM
Philip.
but he would come back when the haitian leaves just like claire and sylar did in the last episode when they got their powers back.
December 3rd, 2008 11:11 PM
Hey! Here is a letter that was published in one of the magazines (tv week) down here in Australia. A fan had wrote in to the magazine. Keep in mind we are 2 episodes behind you guys.
"I absolutely love Heroes and don't miss an episode for anything, but recent episodes just didn't make sense to me. Sylar becoming a dad? That's just stupid and unbelievable! I also find it ridiculous that there are two Peters, with the evil one killing his own brother, before attempting to take his mother's life. Lastly, Claire killing her uncle is just plain silly. I love the show but I'm finding it hard to keep up."
December 3rd, 2008 11:49 PM
This show has seriously lost its way. I agree with everything in the above comments. I am tired of tedious storylines involving characters that are no longer interesting. I once was a Sylar fan but now the character needs a rest and fresh blood should brought in. The same thing should be said for Peter, Claire, and Hiro. These characters have become selfish morons who do things on the spur of the moment not utilizing basic common sense. Out with the old and in with the new. I still do not know why everything revolves around Claire. I mean who but a selfish idiot comes to that conclusion just because the local serial killer said you was special. Hell! She is special because he could put her scalp back on and she was still alive. The characters that were interesting and had stories to tell are either killed unceremoniously or they just disappear with no rhyme and reason. Adam, Elle, Monica, Micah, Candace, are just a few notables. But we still see Maya, Suresh, Parkman, Daphne, Nathan, Tracy, and the other useless villians run around like roaming acts of uselessnes. If the writers are looking for characters to nix look at those. I for one am tired of dumbing down to get through an episode. Also Phillip, I agree Peter looks like he had a stroke or something.
December 4th, 2008 12:52 AM
pablosplinter, i have some answers for you at least
1.that was so he could understand what to fix in the past, future peter seemed unable to dtermine what to fix and what to leave, that wouldnt be the problem for someone with inituitive aptitude
2.he hasnt go superhearing anymore but when he did he used it to hear a converstaion between matt, peter and maybe ted, bac in vol 1, and he used the touch thing in 'angels and monsters'
3. the haitianwas in that scene, but before that in 'the second coming' i'm not sure, maybe she figured that she could out play him, which was stupid but, future claire doesnt strike me as smart
4.yes, and i'm not sure what tracys point is, if they kill her off i wont care,niki was way better than her
5.on the contrary, samedi was cought off guard after the eclipse, he most likely thought that even without his powr he was untouchable, if the eclipse hadnt happend hed still be alive, and the eclipse clearly brought bac the sylar we all fell in love with, and go rid of another character we adored too, but if she comes back through some sort of turn of events that sees mohinder die intsead, we can thank the eclipse.
and i too dont know what the writers are thinking, if they read at least 1 of the above comments then theyed see they are kicking us with storylines that make sence to me but they have become so predictable that i could write the nextseason and then watch it and say: "i wrote that, and that, and that!" i still oove the show but its losing its hold in my top 3 fave shows.
i've been a fan sinse i first saw the ad, and now everytime i see the ad i have to fellings 1. the one i desperatly want to be full of 4 this show pure exitment
and 2. i hope this is better then the last on.
i think heroes is getting its mojo bac slowly but if they ever make it past vol 4 i want new charcters that (when an eclipse) comes have talents that dont rel8 to their powers. then we'll see what real heroes (and kickass villians) really look like!!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2008 12:57 AM
oh! and kytheaussie, i'm from aus too, and i remember reading that. heroes has still got some diehard fans in aus but as you can see even us fellow genius' down under are getting annoyed.
December 4th, 2008 1:05 AM
T.T Heroes , no matter how hard the try can't get back to Season 1 glory days, although I think this season is fantastic.
December 4th, 2008 1:05 AM
oh and also pablosplinter, i think that aurther wants to give the world powers so: a. he can take them all away
b. so everyone can die and the world can have a second chance, kinda like what adam did with the virus
December 4th, 2008 1:06 AM
i too think this season is fantastic koel, but i can be improved, i never said i'd stop watchin'!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2008 1:07 AM
sorry, joel
December 4th, 2008 2:46 AM
Peters gonna slice aurthers head 2 get his ability back :D
December 4th, 2008 8:02 AM
why doesn't sylar have the superhearing ability anymore?
i was thinking of the scene where HRG asks that vortex guy( another interesting character killed off) to kill sylar and he is standing about 50 yards away and can't hear them.
people seem to be saying that sylar lost his abilities after being the first season. that doesn't make sense. how does he get his telekinesis back.
the haitian was in the scene where claire kills peter but he would just come back when he leaves.
i think the best way for peter to get his powers back is to use sylars ability which he got for some big reason and this seems to be the best one.
justr thinking what a great character hiro was in season 1. Shame.
December 4th, 2008 11:51 AM
Pablosplinter - I thought Sylar still had the Superhearing ability. After that scene with Stephen Canfield (Vortex guy) and Claire, HRG and Sylar are all in the car, Sylar said he knew (heard?) HRG wanting to have Canfield Kill him? I should go back and check but just throwing it out there. I'll try to confirm that when I get a chance.
December 4th, 2008 1:11 PM
here i see that this Tv show has the most genius and intelligent fans of the world the writers have to take care a lot.they got to write a uniqe story . i hope it never goes on like another story of this style like Mortal Kombat that makes me feel sick!!!because I see many similarities in the basic materials like in both of them:
1.they must save the world.
2.there is a character who gathers the ability of the ones who he kills(here Sylar and in Mortal Kombat shung tsung!)
3.they travel through time and space and etc.
somehow in heroes there is many special points that makes the difference.I think the show is still using the credit of first season.
but as we go on the actors play their role very very better but if the changes of inner personality of the characters continues even the actors will lost the way of playing and think who is this character eventually?
HRG is the best of this view he still has his ambiguous personality and is believable.
and the most important thing is that I thought that the heroes start to think about their personality,ego and so on but they end up with just saying who they really are and some very weak answers they get .
1.Mohinder is so real because he is like each and every one of us he seeks for answers as a scientist,he watches and does nothing like us.
2.HRG is a very brave human that goes within these all with no extraordinary power like we humen facing many strange situations in our life without being prepared for it or armed for but we fight.
3.Hiro is a unique science! maybe a part of Einstein Theory, traveling in time and space in a while.
4.Adam Monroe is the history. it`s been changed maybe it`s a great lie .the hero in our history in fact is a super villain!!! the only way to get rid of him is to send him underground where it really belongs to because history never dies.
5.Nathan and Clair are wishes , dreams of human for all time , being able to fly ,being able to leave forever or stay young forever.
6.Peter is a modern super human with all the abilities he wants and wishes for he gets then all but when he goes to the future and sees what happens he comes back to save himself and others ,remember terminator?
you see all these characters are shaped very well.but when we see they have been caught in cheap stories and struggle for nothing, here we can find out why the season 1 was a unique peace of art and here these nonsense stories
December 4th, 2008 3:03 PM
PabloSplinter
I dont not like this and I think its absurd bullshit but here it is.
Ok according to Joe Pokaski & Aron Coliete in a "behind the eclipse" interview on Comic book resources dot com. Sylar did indeed loose his abilities to the shanti virus... all of them expect his original power and telekinesis because of the emotional trauma he went threw when he killed brian davis.
Even thou we've seen him (supposedly) use super hearing, and have seen him pregog paint and nuke texas.... Mr. Pokaski said it was because he got those powers again from other people....
personally i think that is just the greatest example of how the writers have fucked up unbelievable this season
December 4th, 2008 3:27 PM
bruce. i agree with your sentiments about the first season and agree that all of the characters were very well thought out but let down by cheap storylines. ( and that is a word which i have heard alot when describing heroes storyline- cheap).
the first season was binded together by an air of mystery which manifested itself through symbols such as the eclipse and the DNA symbol, and also through connections between all of the characters which maybe they didn't see at the time such as the linderman connection or two characters meeting the same person. it was very cleverly written because it made viewers feel clever and involved by letting them make the connection themselves and noticing things that they knew would be important later on.
in this season we are being promised a big revelation every week and then when it comes it just seems like a convenient plot device.(the eclipse)
p.s they always say that it is easier to write an origin story than a continuation.
December 4th, 2008 3:30 PM
Jason
"I dont not like this and I think its absurd bullshit"
couldn't agree more
FanOheroes- i'm not sure but i think that when HRG returns to the car Sylar says something like " you told him to kill me didn't you?" like he had worked out what was going on rather than he heard it. not sure though
March 9th, 2009 3:35 AM
Does anyone also question how matt parkman and the kid who controls computers should have already resolved this problem ages ago? In season 2, Matt was able to beat his father when it came to dream manipulation and it was also shown that Matt had the power of suggestion. So, why doesnt Matt just tell all the cops to kill themselves or to hunt down all those involved in this situation and to kill them and then turn around and kill themselves. Problem solved. Although that would be boring and they couldn't really work off of that. So then, why not use the kid with the computer power? Technically, he could easily hack into a military computer and hold the world at his mercy through the threat of nuclear warfare. (he could use the computers and threaten to send nukes to any major cities.) I'm sure million of other people have also thought of this. So why are the characters so stupid and refuse to come up with something this simple?