First, a week or two back I had said that Chad Faust was going to be playing a homeless man who can create seismic activity. Obviously I was incorrect seeing as Chat was the Marine who was injected with the formula last night.
Okay. Last nights heroes was great, in my opinion. Yeah there was a small thing or two I could have done without but overall; it’s the best episode this season. That said, I still don’t think we should be sitting threw 8 bad episodes to get a good conclusion to a lackluster season. So there’s still an overall arc problem in the show.
Speaking of Arc problems I want to address eveyone’s, not so favorite anymore, time traveler. This entire season we’ve (yes, myself included) have bitched and complained and thrown our fists into the air over Hiro’s childish behavior (even before he regressed to a 10 year old). Hiro should have learned from his mistakes, Hiro should be more responsible, Hiro should ext ext… And now after seeing this episode and the preview for next week’s I’m beginning to think that the writers have always felt this way as well….
When Hiro and Claire were snooping around listening to Kito and Hiro’s mother talk; Kito was insistent on the fact that his son was to childish and not strong enough to carry the responsibility of the catalyst. We all know that 16 years later Kito see’s the strength in his son before he dies, but 16 years in the past (where hiro is stuck) Kito will once again teach is son lessons of Honor & Responsibility after learning of Hiro’s recent failures. We see a quick clip in the preview of who I believe was Kito and Hiro, sword fighting in the Kitchen.
It’s my opinion, that Hiro’s story this entire season has been leading to a final defining moment next week where Hiro comes to realize that despite the fact he’s saved the world twice; he’s still too immature and irresponsible. I believe this is just one more step to creating the “terrorist” Hiro that fights along side Peter in a future against Nathan.
Yes, I believe that the future will still happen. Not the exact way it was supposed to happen (new York in ashes) but you can’t stop the future. Peter and Hiro will be “terrorists” and Nathan will be president.
Back on topic… So If I’m right and the writers have written Hiro childishly on purpose to teach him a lesson in humility, have we been too hard on them? I have a hard time deciding what way to sway. I hated, absolutely hated, Hiro acting irresponsibly. We all agree his character should have grown, He SHOULD have grown, but he didn’t and now because of it I believe he will learn once again learn what it means to be a Hero. In truth, the sacrifices a Hero must make, the pain he must see and experience, the things (horrible at times) he must do to fight against the evil and horrible things some people want to do.
i thought that arthur was a badly written character, everytime he killed someone it did just seem like the writers were trying to build up his evil character ( why kill Usutu and Maury? why not just take their powers?)
and it was always unclear what the exact motive was behind arthurs plan. why did he want everypne to have abilities. i don't think the writers put any thought in to these questions at all they just wanted a villain.
Syalr is a much better villain because he does not have a plan at all. he just wants peoples abilities and so he will go around killing people.
i too have been really hard on heroes lately ( nad with good reason) however i thought that this episode was really good. much more like the old heroes.
there were some really great moments in this episode.
the main highlight was of course Sylar returning to past glory.(just keep him this way now please!)
i am still dissapointed with the direction the show seems to be heading though.( catalyst, formula whatever!!!)
this episode was so good that i found myself ignoring all of the plotholes. well all except one and it is a very big one.
we saw that the Haitian was blocking Arthurs powers on purpose. that he actually had control over who's power he was blocking. however, in an early episode when he is buying the formula in some cinema, He blocks Hiro and Daphne's powers when he didn't know that they were there.
this would mean that he doesn't have control over who's power he stops. it doesn't make sense.
it seems like the writers don't mind ignoring what they have written before if it suits them even if it doesn't make any sense.
Evan S. Says:
December 9th, 2008 8:43 AM
It's more like the writers wanted him to be considered "evil", hence they had him kill people. Just going by his plan, I don't see that sinister at all. He believes by uniting everyone via powers can bring peace and prosperity to the world at last. I get that. Doesn't sound evil at all.
But they want you to think that, so they have him make unnecessary kills and have typical dumb cronies like Flint and Knox not to forget setting up his one son to die.
Aaron Says:
December 9th, 2008 7:45 AM
I've been hard on Heroes lately, but I have to admit that I really liked this one. Sure, Sylar's knack for finding the perfect power at the perfect time is a bit off, but stories have to be driven, right?
Also, there was some idiot last week that theorized that Elle wasn't actually dead. I can't remember his name... but it rhymed with "Baron" I think. Yeah, I was a tad off on that one.
All-in-all, good episode. I forgot how good it felt to have a villain that actually seemed evil. "Oooh, cake!"
I can say that I am glad Arthur is gone he got what he deserved, it funny because while I was watching the episode in the part when Arthur took Hiro powers I got mad and I was like “they need to get rid of him I am getting tire of Arthur already” and at the they make me happy.
TERENCE Says:
December 9th, 2008 7:23 AM
suprisingly, this was actually a really good episode. heroes seem to be going in the right direction. the whole thing with hiro is a nice twist. im satisifed
Joel Says:
December 9th, 2008 4:02 AM
They did show that Arthur was a super-villain, even after only 6 or 7 episodes. His ruthlessness, killing Maury, Utusu, taking Peter's powers, taking Hiro's powers, memories and catalyst, and also lying being the father of Sylar. SUPER VILLAIN!
mzbrink Says:
December 9th, 2008 2:01 AM
I think it was one more way Angela manipulated one of her sons. She definitely gives Eric Doyle a run for his money for the title of 'Puppetmaster.' Also, just because Arthur wasn't Sylar's father doesn't mean Angela isn't his mom. We all know she has been with Kaito Nakamura. Who's to say she didn't have a rendezvous with another character? Maybe Adam Monroe. They've mentioned that they want to go into Adam's bloodline at some point.
December 9th, 2008 10:06 AM
Ok so theres a couple things I want to touch on…
First, a week or two back I had said that Chad Faust was going to be playing a homeless man who can create seismic activity. Obviously I was incorrect seeing as Chat was the Marine who was injected with the formula last night.
Okay. Last nights heroes was great, in my opinion. Yeah there was a small thing or two I could have done without but overall; it’s the best episode this season. That said, I still don’t think we should be sitting threw 8 bad episodes to get a good conclusion to a lackluster season. So there’s still an overall arc problem in the show.
Speaking of Arc problems I want to address eveyone’s, not so favorite anymore, time traveler. This entire season we’ve (yes, myself included) have bitched and complained and thrown our fists into the air over Hiro’s childish behavior (even before he regressed to a 10 year old). Hiro should have learned from his mistakes, Hiro should be more responsible, Hiro should ext ext… And now after seeing this episode and the preview for next week’s I’m beginning to think that the writers have always felt this way as well….
When Hiro and Claire were snooping around listening to Kito and Hiro’s mother talk; Kito was insistent on the fact that his son was to childish and not strong enough to carry the responsibility of the catalyst. We all know that 16 years later Kito see’s the strength in his son before he dies, but 16 years in the past (where hiro is stuck) Kito will once again teach is son lessons of Honor & Responsibility after learning of Hiro’s recent failures. We see a quick clip in the preview of who I believe was Kito and Hiro, sword fighting in the Kitchen.
It’s my opinion, that Hiro’s story this entire season has been leading to a final defining moment next week where Hiro comes to realize that despite the fact he’s saved the world twice; he’s still too immature and irresponsible. I believe this is just one more step to creating the “terrorist” Hiro that fights along side Peter in a future against Nathan.
Yes, I believe that the future will still happen. Not the exact way it was supposed to happen (new York in ashes) but you can’t stop the future. Peter and Hiro will be “terrorists” and Nathan will be president.
Back on topic… So If I’m right and the writers have written Hiro childishly on purpose to teach him a lesson in humility, have we been too hard on them? I have a hard time deciding what way to sway. I hated, absolutely hated, Hiro acting irresponsibly. We all agree his character should have grown, He SHOULD have grown, but he didn’t and now because of it I believe he will learn once again learn what it means to be a Hero. In truth, the sacrifices a Hero must make, the pain he must see and experience, the things (horrible at times) he must do to fight against the evil and horrible things some people want to do.
How do you feel?
December 9th, 2008 9:40 AM
i thought that arthur was a badly written character, everytime he killed someone it did just seem like the writers were trying to build up his evil character ( why kill Usutu and Maury? why not just take their powers?)
and it was always unclear what the exact motive was behind arthurs plan. why did he want everypne to have abilities. i don't think the writers put any thought in to these questions at all they just wanted a villain.
Syalr is a much better villain because he does not have a plan at all. he just wants peoples abilities and so he will go around killing people.
December 9th, 2008 9:34 AM
i too have been really hard on heroes lately ( nad with good reason) however i thought that this episode was really good. much more like the old heroes.
there were some really great moments in this episode.
the main highlight was of course Sylar returning to past glory.(just keep him this way now please!)
i am still dissapointed with the direction the show seems to be heading though.( catalyst, formula whatever!!!)
this episode was so good that i found myself ignoring all of the plotholes. well all except one and it is a very big one.
we saw that the Haitian was blocking Arthurs powers on purpose. that he actually had control over who's power he was blocking. however, in an early episode when he is buying the formula in some cinema, He blocks Hiro and Daphne's powers when he didn't know that they were there.
this would mean that he doesn't have control over who's power he stops. it doesn't make sense.
it seems like the writers don't mind ignoring what they have written before if it suits them even if it doesn't make any sense.
December 9th, 2008 8:43 AM
It's more like the writers wanted him to be considered "evil", hence they had him kill people. Just going by his plan, I don't see that sinister at all. He believes by uniting everyone via powers can bring peace and prosperity to the world at last. I get that. Doesn't sound evil at all.
But they want you to think that, so they have him make unnecessary kills and have typical dumb cronies like Flint and Knox not to forget setting up his one son to die.
December 9th, 2008 7:45 AM
I've been hard on Heroes lately, but I have to admit that I really liked this one. Sure, Sylar's knack for finding the perfect power at the perfect time is a bit off, but stories have to be driven, right?
Also, there was some idiot last week that theorized that Elle wasn't actually dead. I can't remember his name... but it rhymed with "Baron" I think. Yeah, I was a tad off on that one.
All-in-all, good episode. I forgot how good it felt to have a villain that actually seemed evil. "Oooh, cake!"
December 9th, 2008 7:27 AM
I can say that I am glad Arthur is gone he got what he deserved, it funny because while I was watching the episode in the part when Arthur took Hiro powers I got mad and I was like “they need to get rid of him I am getting tire of Arthur already” and at the they make me happy.
December 9th, 2008 7:23 AM
suprisingly, this was actually a really good episode. heroes seem to be going in the right direction. the whole thing with hiro is a nice twist. im satisifed
December 9th, 2008 4:02 AM
They did show that Arthur was a super-villain, even after only 6 or 7 episodes. His ruthlessness, killing Maury, Utusu, taking Peter's powers, taking Hiro's powers, memories and catalyst, and also lying being the father of Sylar. SUPER VILLAIN!
December 9th, 2008 2:01 AM
I think it was one more way Angela manipulated one of her sons. She definitely gives Eric Doyle a run for his money for the title of 'Puppetmaster.' Also, just because Arthur wasn't Sylar's father doesn't mean Angela isn't his mom. We all know she has been with Kaito Nakamura. Who's to say she didn't have a rendezvous with another character? Maybe Adam Monroe. They've mentioned that they want to go into Adam's bloodline at some point.
December 9th, 2008 12:55 AM
WTF...... Hiro's gone???? I think the writers are drunk when they write scripts!!!