Everyone is forgetting to mention one thing. Angela Petrelli had her false memories repaired by Linderman's healing, Hiro had his memories returned by his mother's healing. How the hell are the false memories placed on Sylar going to stick when he is now a natural healer? I'm guessing they actually lasted all of 15 seconds after Parkman planted them and Sylar is just playing possum now.
usutu Says: April 28th, 2009 6:59 PM
i was pretty damn shocked by the finale, actually gasped when nathan got his throat slit, was a little disappointed by "the fight" not bein shown. but you all need to remember what they did with the "exploding man" episode, when they followed it by showing the episode where peter and nathan flew off....that ended up bein one of the best episodes ever!!! so have patience people, the more of you that give up, the quicker heroes leaves our screens!!! HAVE FAITH!
Hiro Says: April 28th, 2009 6:39 PM
Did they make the choice because of the sedative, it would wear off and they didnt know what power peter had absorbed from sylar?
Bijou Says: April 28th, 2009 3:34 PM
Oh My Funk, you guys, they killed off SYLAR. This has GOT to be the most weirded out finale ever! If Sylar is dead then everything, the good guys and the story plot, will be totally unbalanced. Without our sexy psycho killer, i see no point in watching the rest of the series :/ My only hope is that the fake Nathan gets his memories of being Sylar soon or else... (i'm assuming that he still has all his powers but just forgotten that he had them?) I expected Nathan to be the one that would be killed of but why make Sylar into a fake Nathan?! D:
allison Says: April 28th, 2009 3:32 PM
i didnt like the ending either. they should have shown the fight with the petrelli brothers and sylar but being that their only power was flight that wouldnt have been much of a fight anyway. and claire's blood couldnt save him because he was already dead. i liked nathan and thought that he was redeeming himself. i will watch volume 5 only to see the whole sylar nathan thing blow up in their faces. i mean i really did not see that coming.
Alex Says: April 28th, 2009 3:18 PM
Yes Joe i liked it better on this when Tracy came back cuz Ali Larter is unbelievably sexy, and the girl in termiantor isn't at all, plus when Barbara comes into the show and hopefully meets Tracy, i hope this means she will finally get some decent screen time, and go see Obsessed shes sooo HOT in that too
I thought that it was a very good finale to Volume Four, but the fight between Sylar and the Petrelli brothers should have been shown.
It will be interesting to see how the writers develop the story in Volume Five. It looks as if one of the main plotlines will be Sylar realising that he isn't Nathan and how that will affect everyone, especially Peter and Claire.
Personally I can't wait for the next season of Heroes!
Ninefold Says: April 28th, 2009 9:13 AM
Bond3x: In the case of both Arthur and Nathan neither was completely dead. You're right that a bullet through the eye would seems like an insta kill, but if the bullet did not hit a vital life sustaining portion of the brain he could still live. There are many documented cases of people having things jabbed in the eye or head and still living.
gutted Says: April 28th, 2009 8:20 AM
been a heroes fan since season 1 , but i cant beleive they didnt kill sylar. (and how they get sylar's body from the president's car with all the american secret service bodyguards? ... actualy, waht the hell happened to the president?)
anyway, hopefuly sylar will kill angela (in the next season ) for being an idiot
Bond3X Says: April 28th, 2009 7:25 AM
How much dead can you get with a bullet in thru your eye. I always thought that was pretty dead, because that is what happened to HGR and he had half a bag of Claire's blood pumped into him and brought back.
The other cases where blood has been used this way were Adam healing Papa Petrelli, Adam healing Nathan, yeah these are the only ones that come to mind.
Christie Says: April 28th, 2009 7:08 AM
I understand that many of us are disappointed that they 'hid' the battle but to say this episode sucks just because of that is just too much, imo. I really enjoyed this episode, non-battle notwithstanding. I don't know whether to cry over Nathan's death or laugh at the absurdity of the twist, and I say that as a compliment. Now I get what Bryan Fuller had been hinting about the character death in the finale. I definitely cannot wait for volume 5!
joe Says: April 28th, 2009 6:11 AM
"TRACY!!! holy shit that was an insane comeback...she gonna do some crazy shit now "
Are you serious? You didn't see that coming? I liked it better when it happened in Terminator 2.
The "biggest fight" in Heroes history in a season finale no less is not even shown?
herogirl Says: April 28th, 2009 4:40 AM
it was a good episode, not THE BEST but it was good, i've loved heroes since the first time it was advertised! and though i still wonder how it got from being a hot topic to something thats in the 'dont bother' section, i still like it so i'll definatly be watching next volume, although it will probably be the last
LopefT Says: April 28th, 2009 2:58 AM
Очень понравилось, даже не ожидала.
Ninefold Says: April 28th, 2009 1:56 AM
This was one of the best episodes since season 1. Many have made complaints that the show never kills major characters anymore. Now they have. Sylar couldn't have been killed by any known conventional means. So they had to do what they did. If you look at the series in terms of connected episodes you would see that Angela doesn't always (rarely) takes the high road. What she did to Sylar proves that. Using Claire's blood? Easily explained by saying that he was fully dead by the time they got there. If you say it revived HRG, then in his case I don't think he was fully dead before his revival.
I hope Peter has more than shapeshifting. But his cuts didn't heal so I don't think he has all Sylar's abilities.
I thought this finale was sweet-except for not seeing the fight, that was lame, but I'm sure it had to do with production costs and not giving away what was about to happen at the end
lanta gate Says: April 28th, 2009 12:12 AM
IS IT JUST ME OR DOES ANY ONE REALLY SEE THE FUTURE OF WHAT HIRO FROM 5 YEARS IN THE FUTURE WAS TRYING TO STOP WITH ONE OR 2 THINGS DIFFERENT
1. SYLAR IS NATHAN AS PRESIDENT 2. WHEN SYLAR KILLED NATHAN HE HAD ALREADY TURNED ON HIS OWN KIND. 3. MATT HAS A SON THAT IS HIS NAMED MATTHEW 4. THEY ARE HUNTED DOWN AS TERRORISTS. 5. MATT AND BENNET AS OF THE END OF TONIGHTS EPISODE SEEM TO BE NOT UNDER BEST OF TERMS. 6. Theory Clair is going to be in vegas at sometime living then back in texas. 7. Mohinder will chit chat with nathan as an advisor and EVERY THING THAT WAS WILL STILL BE EXCEPT FOR THE PETER BIG BOOM THEROY.
F.D. Says: April 27th, 2009 11:43 PM
I must admit I am quite disappointed too. First of all, hiding the Petrellis vs Sylar fight was an insult to the audience who's been waiting for this moment forever. It also turns out Peter didn't take all of Sylar's power, but only shapeshifting. How gay can that be ?
Nathan could've been revived by Claire's blood, but instead they used some distorted plot twist to brainwash Sylar, fully knowing it would get healed sooner or later (Peter should especially be aware of this).
This show is becoming way too predictable. I'm defenitely going to watch next season but I'm afraid this finale is certainly not what will bring old school fans back.
Angela didn't want her son to die that way and I'm pretty sure if any parent could bring back their son or daughter someway somehow they would do the same. it was definitely a weird shocking twist.
Sylar's Sam Says: April 27th, 2009 11:22 PM
Though I am still a fanatical cult worshipper of the first season, who displayed blind loyalty to these last 3 volumes in the face of all of their flaws out of respect for the originals and stayed optimistic for literally years that we'd eventually get some more of the old magic back... I just went from disappointed to mad. I had eagerly anticipated watching volume 5, regardless of how the season finale turned out. But this was just too much! I had liked the episode pretty good 3/4 of the way through, but the "Nylar" idea to me is hands down the grossest plotline ever forced on us. No reason in the world (and certainly not the one we were given, which required ignoring more plausible scenarios like allowing Peter, who now has Sylar's shape shifting ability, to walk around as Nathan when called on) to lead a room of people who are not insane to conculde that inserting false memories into a sadistic super-powered serial killer to impersonate their brother/friend/son. He's still got the same vicious murderous spirit and dangerous unlimited powers, he just has somebody else's face and amnesia...and amnesia never lasts on network TV, especially when the killer's got the power to see the history of anything he's come into contact with. Redemption looks Predicable, Painful and to add an extra P word Preposterous. Its a sad day for me that I say this as a once die hard fan, but I'm siding with Joe.
P.S Why couldn't Peter just walk around with Nathan's face when needed if they
April 30th, 2009 5:55 PM
Everyone is forgetting to mention one thing. Angela Petrelli had her false memories repaired by Linderman's healing, Hiro had his memories returned by his mother's healing. How the hell are the false memories placed on Sylar going to stick when he is now a natural healer? I'm guessing they actually lasted all of 15 seconds after Parkman planted them and Sylar is just playing possum now.
April 28th, 2009 6:59 PM
i was pretty damn shocked by the finale, actually gasped when nathan got his throat slit, was a little disappointed by "the fight" not bein shown. but you all need to remember what they did with the "exploding man" episode, when they followed it by showing the episode where peter and nathan flew off....that ended up bein one of the best episodes ever!!! so have patience people, the more of you that give up, the quicker heroes leaves our screens!!! HAVE FAITH!
April 28th, 2009 6:39 PM
Did they make the choice because of the sedative, it would wear off and they didnt know what power peter had absorbed from sylar?
April 28th, 2009 3:34 PM
Oh My Funk, you guys, they killed off SYLAR. This has GOT to be the most weirded out finale ever! If Sylar is dead then everything, the good guys and the story plot, will be totally unbalanced. Without our sexy psycho killer, i see no point in watching the rest of the series :/
My only hope is that the fake Nathan gets his memories of being Sylar soon or else... (i'm assuming that he still has all his powers but just forgotten that he had them?)
I expected Nathan to be the one that would be killed of but why make Sylar into a fake Nathan?! D:
April 28th, 2009 3:32 PM
i didnt like the ending either. they should have shown the fight with the petrelli brothers and sylar but being that their only power was flight that wouldnt have been much of a fight anyway. and claire's blood couldnt save him because he was already dead. i liked nathan and thought that he was redeeming himself. i will watch volume 5 only to see the whole sylar nathan thing blow up in their faces. i mean i really did not see that coming.
April 28th, 2009 3:18 PM
Yes Joe i liked it better on this when Tracy came back cuz Ali Larter is unbelievably sexy, and the girl in termiantor isn't at all, plus when Barbara comes into the show and hopefully meets Tracy, i hope this means she will finally get some decent screen time, and go see Obsessed shes sooo HOT in that too
April 28th, 2009 10:13 AM
I thought that it was a very good finale to Volume Four, but the fight between Sylar and the Petrelli brothers should have been shown.
It will be interesting to see how the writers develop the story in Volume Five. It looks as if one of the main plotlines will be Sylar realising that he isn't Nathan and how that will affect everyone, especially Peter and Claire.
Personally I can't wait for the next season of Heroes!
April 28th, 2009 9:13 AM
Bond3x: In the case of both Arthur and Nathan neither was completely dead. You're right that a bullet through the eye would seems like an insta kill, but if the bullet did not hit a vital life sustaining portion of the brain he could still live. There are many documented cases of people having things jabbed in the eye or head and still living.
April 28th, 2009 8:20 AM
been a heroes fan since season 1 , but i cant beleive they didnt kill sylar. (and how they get sylar's body from the president's car with all the american secret service bodyguards? ... actualy, waht the hell happened to the president?)
anyway, hopefuly sylar will kill angela (in the next season ) for being an idiot
April 28th, 2009 7:25 AM
How much dead can you get with a bullet in thru your eye. I always thought that was pretty dead, because that is what happened to HGR and he had half a bag of Claire's blood pumped into him and brought back.
The other cases where blood has been used this way were Adam healing Papa Petrelli, Adam healing Nathan, yeah these are the only ones that come to mind.
April 28th, 2009 7:08 AM
I understand that many of us are disappointed that they 'hid' the battle but to say this episode sucks just because of that is just too much, imo. I really enjoyed this episode, non-battle notwithstanding. I don't know whether to cry over Nathan's death or laugh at the absurdity of the twist, and I say that as a compliment. Now I get what Bryan Fuller had been hinting about the character death in the finale. I definitely cannot wait for volume 5!
April 28th, 2009 6:11 AM
"TRACY!!! holy shit that was an insane comeback...she gonna do some crazy shit now "
Are you serious? You didn't see that coming? I liked it better when it happened in Terminator 2.
The "biggest fight" in Heroes history in a season finale no less is not even shown?
April 28th, 2009 4:40 AM
it was a good episode, not THE BEST but it was good, i've loved heroes since the first time it was advertised! and though i still wonder how it got from being a hot topic to something thats in the 'dont bother' section, i still like it so i'll definatly be watching next volume, although it will probably be the last
April 28th, 2009 2:58 AM
Очень понравилось, даже не ожидала.
April 28th, 2009 1:56 AM
This was one of the best episodes since season 1. Many have made complaints that the show never kills major characters anymore. Now they have. Sylar couldn't have been killed by any known conventional means. So they had to do what they did. If you look at the series in terms of connected episodes you would see that Angela doesn't always (rarely) takes the high road. What she did to Sylar proves that. Using Claire's blood? Easily explained by saying that he was fully dead by the time they got there. If you say it revived HRG, then in his case I don't think he was fully dead before his revival.
I hope Peter has more than shapeshifting. But his cuts didn't heal so I don't think he has all Sylar's abilities.
April 28th, 2009 12:26 AM
I thought this finale was sweet-except for not seeing the fight, that was lame, but I'm sure it had to do with production costs and not giving away what was about to happen at the end
April 28th, 2009 12:12 AM
IS IT JUST ME OR DOES ANY ONE REALLY SEE THE FUTURE OF WHAT HIRO FROM 5 YEARS IN THE FUTURE WAS TRYING TO STOP WITH ONE OR 2 THINGS DIFFERENT
1. SYLAR IS NATHAN AS PRESIDENT
2. WHEN SYLAR KILLED NATHAN HE HAD ALREADY TURNED ON HIS OWN KIND.
3. MATT HAS A SON THAT IS HIS NAMED MATTHEW
4. THEY ARE HUNTED DOWN AS TERRORISTS.
5. MATT AND BENNET AS OF THE END OF TONIGHTS EPISODE SEEM TO BE NOT UNDER BEST OF TERMS.
6. Theory Clair is going to be in vegas at sometime living then back in texas.
7. Mohinder will chit chat with nathan as an advisor and
EVERY THING THAT WAS WILL STILL BE EXCEPT FOR THE PETER BIG BOOM THEROY.
April 27th, 2009 11:43 PM
I must admit I am quite disappointed too. First of all, hiding the Petrellis vs Sylar fight was an insult to the audience who's been waiting for this moment forever. It also turns out Peter didn't take all of Sylar's power, but only shapeshifting. How gay can that be ?
Nathan could've been revived by Claire's blood, but instead they used some distorted plot twist to brainwash Sylar, fully knowing it would get healed sooner or later (Peter should especially be aware of this).
This show is becoming way too predictable. I'm defenitely going to watch next season but I'm afraid this finale is certainly not what will bring old school fans back.
April 27th, 2009 11:27 PM
Angela didn't want her son to die that way and I'm pretty sure if any parent could bring back their son or daughter someway somehow they would do the same. it was definitely a weird shocking twist.
April 27th, 2009 11:22 PM
Though I am still a fanatical cult worshipper of the first season, who displayed blind loyalty to these last 3 volumes in the face of all of their flaws out of respect for the originals and stayed optimistic for literally years that we'd eventually get some more of the old magic back... I just went from disappointed to mad. I had eagerly anticipated watching volume 5, regardless of how the season finale turned out. But this was just too much! I had liked the episode pretty good 3/4 of the way through, but the "Nylar" idea to me is hands down the grossest plotline ever forced on us. No reason in the world (and certainly not the one we were given, which required ignoring more plausible scenarios like allowing Peter, who now has Sylar's shape shifting ability, to walk around as Nathan when called on) to lead a room of people who are not insane to conculde that inserting false memories into a sadistic super-powered serial killer to impersonate their brother/friend/son. He's still got the same vicious murderous spirit and dangerous unlimited powers, he just has somebody else's face and amnesia...and amnesia never lasts on network TV, especially when the killer's got the power to see the history of anything he's come into contact with. Redemption looks Predicable, Painful and to add an extra P word Preposterous. Its a sad day for me that I say this as a once die hard fan, but I'm siding with Joe.
P.S Why couldn't Peter just walk around with Nathan's face when needed if they
April 27th, 2009 11:22 PM
i'm pretty sure its shape shifting...didn't you hear peter say "bet you didn't think I took that one"
April 27th, 2009 11:13 PM
that was intense... Im so happy Peter now has sylars abilities...
wich ones? who knows... cany waight for volume 5
April 27th, 2009 10:34 PM
TRACY!!! holy shit that was an insane comeback...she gonna do some crazy shit now
April 27th, 2009 10:31 PM
Good season finale.For those who say they are done with the show...Good Riddance.Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
April 27th, 2009 10:28 PM
yeah i was wondering the same thing but I like how they wrote this finale chapter of volume 4