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Sezza80 Says:
April 15th, 2009 7:12 AM
F.D., the leaving Alice behind thing personally bugs me cos it's not as though they were simply going out for the night to hang out etc.. Angela FEARED for her life and they were ALL concerned with revealing to the world/police that Suresh and his co-workers were dangerous (we don't know exactly what Angela dreamt but it scared her), why then leave any family behind?
I don't believe teenagers are that stupid that they'd leave her behind simply cos she was a younger sibling, especially when they knew of her powers (or at least Angela did). Charles came across as very smart to me (the other boys not so much) and that decision made him and Angela just appear idiotic and I didn't think that prior to that choice.
F.D. Says:
April 15th, 2009 11:25 AM
Sezza80 perhaps Charles just didn't want to be bothered with a kid and subtly used his power to convince Angela to not bring her along.
Everything doesn't need to be so obvious, although it's nice to see theories confirmed.
And by the way, my previous post was questioning why Linderman didn't heal Deveaux in season 1. Not Arthur. My bad.
Josh Says:
April 15th, 2009 11:43 AM
Im quite sick of how everyone bad mouths heroes. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but people there is going to be no opinions if you carry on because Tim Kring reads all these comments and he changes everything because of them which seems to make you people complaining complain even more. And this will only lead to the end of Heroes, which I don't want to see happen, I myself thought that this episode was really good the best episode since Cold Snap! And normally in any Tv show I hate flashback episodes but this was truly awesome!
GUNSMITH Says:
April 15th, 2009 2:02 PM
I LIKED THAT IT ENLIGHTENED ME ON THE PAST, I DO WANNA SEE MORE FLASHBACKS, AURTHUR, KEITO, ADAM YADDA YADDA YADDA...BUT THINGS THAT I LONG TO SEE AND IM TELLING YOU WRITERS, FANS OF HEROES WANNA SEE...PETER WITH HIS POWERS BACK, A PETER VS SYLAR FIGHT, HIRO WITH HIS POWERS BACK, ACTION ACTION ACTION!!! THE NEXT ONE LOOKS LIKE A GOOD ONE, WHY YOU PIT PETER AGAINST SYLAR NOW WHEN HE ONLY HAS ONE POWER AT A TIME OR WHAT I LIKE TO CALL "THE DOORKNOB POWER" EVERY POWER GETS A TURN..I DONT KNOW..YOUR GONNA GET PETER KILLED AND THAT WOULD EXTREMELLY PESS FANS OFF. H'ES LIKE TO HEROES LIKE MICKEY IS TO DISNEY.
Sezza80 Says:
April 15th, 2009 2:55 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree F.D.. Being bothered with a kid and fearing for their lives are two totally different thigns in my mind, and if they were that concerned I still can't grasp their rationalising. Maybe they were just stupid teenagers, maybe I'm just disapointed cos prior to that decision I'd credited them with perhaps more intelligence than they deserved. Either way, it wasn't a bad episode there were just some contradictions to previous backstories (it wasn't made clear exactly how Chandra had his memory erased, seemingly, but still kept the files etc.) that personally irked me. It's still a great show, even the episodes I don't care for are miles ahead of other shows on telly at the mo. I jsut want to be blown away like I was with 'Cold Snap', I wasn't expecting such a wicked episode (hadn't seen one in ages!) and it restored my faith in the show, I just want that feeling every week.
F.D. Says:
April 15th, 2009 3:26 PM
We might learn in another flashback how Chandra lost his memory, and how he got his Coyote Sands data back.
From the Haïtian to Arthur Petrelli, there are many possiblities. Basically anything could've happened in the span of time where he participated in these experiments, and lost Chanti. There's certainly a reason Primatech held a Virus bearing her name. Chandra probably worked with them for a while before taking off to India, likely after being partly brainwashed.
They could make several whole seasons out of what happened between 1961 and the moment Arthur attempted to kill Nathan.
Derek Says:
April 15th, 2009 6:21 PM
You guys have to remember that "plot holes" contained in this episode may be filled in and aexplained in those contained in the future, as some previous ones have been.
Derek Says:
April 15th, 2009 6:21 PM
You guys have to remember that "plot holes" contained in this episode may be filled in and aexplained in those contained in the future, as some previous ones have been.
F.D. Says:
April 16th, 2009 12:35 PM
@Sezza80 There's one more thing that has slipped away from this convo: they were not fleeing. They retreated to discuss Angela's visions. Angela obviously planned to go back since she said "Alright, let's get Alice some socks then return to the camp." just before the radio aired the disaster.
So yea, it wasn't very clever to leave her sister behind especially after dreaming that Suresh kills everyone. But it looks like the group's plan was to avoid the massacre in the first place. Angela obviously didn't think it would happen so fast.
Courtney Says:
April 17th, 2009 11:42 AM
This is a foundation episode. It seems like it has no arch and was pointless, but hopefully after future episodes we'll look back on this one and enjoy it a lot more for what it set up and what it did inform us that we can't understand now.
Courtney Says:
April 17th, 2009 11:46 AM
Another question. So does Sylar need to touch the person he shifts into? 'Cause if so, when did he touch Nathan? Am I being forgetful,'cause I really don't remember him touching Nathan recently...
Ravenhill Says:
April 17th, 2009 3:41 PM
Thanks Courtney, I was just thinking that.
I wonder if the government has Nathan's DNA on file or something? Then Danko would be able to get it for Sylar. Presumaly he could morph into Nathan by touching something as simple as a hair or some blood... anything that came off Nathan really.
I enjoyed this one....finaly a reason for angela's sock fetish..lol
and i was thinking about Charles Devue's power..maybe he was a sponge like peter was,absorbing everyones powers?
Ravenhill Says:
April 18th, 2009 6:00 AM
I always suspected Charles had mental-based powers, because of the clues in Season One. It's just a shame really, because Matt's dad was telepathic. I wanted more diversity from the Company founders. Who would win in a telepathic fight between Charles and Maury Parkman?
Its a shame the episode didnt reveal more Company founders. Theres still a few more to go.
siouxsy Says:
April 19th, 2009 5:50 PM
I really liked this episodes. It explained things from previous seasons and it built the foundations for the next season. The script was well written the actors well directed. Very good in my eyes. I agree with Abrown2382, you complain about so much and contradict your selves so much! This has been the best season so far, yes the ratings are down but that could be a number of things, should be put on a different day I think. but stop slagging this show off because its doing very well! The episodes in this season are so well written.
julia Says:
April 26th, 2009 3:16 PM
heyy, so me and my sister are HUGE heroes fans, we try to figure things out befor they happen and i think im on to something, she dosent but i thought i would ask you guys. so in this episode it shows three guys that are hitting on angla, do you think maybe one of them could be clares dad?
April 15th, 2009 5:41 AM
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April 15th, 2009 7:12 AM
F.D., the leaving Alice behind thing personally bugs me cos it's not as though they were simply going out for the night to hang out etc.. Angela FEARED for her life and they were ALL concerned with revealing to the world/police that Suresh and his co-workers were dangerous (we don't know exactly what Angela dreamt but it scared her), why then leave any family behind?
I don't believe teenagers are that stupid that they'd leave her behind simply cos she was a younger sibling, especially when they knew of her powers (or at least Angela did). Charles came across as very smart to me (the other boys not so much) and that decision made him and Angela just appear idiotic and I didn't think that prior to that choice.
April 15th, 2009 11:25 AM
Sezza80 perhaps Charles just didn't want to be bothered with a kid and subtly used his power to convince Angela to not bring her along.
Everything doesn't need to be so obvious, although it's nice to see theories confirmed.
And by the way, my previous post was questioning why Linderman didn't heal Deveaux in season 1. Not Arthur. My bad.
April 15th, 2009 11:43 AM
Im quite sick of how everyone bad mouths heroes. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but people there is going to be no opinions if you carry on because Tim Kring reads all these comments and he changes everything because of them which seems to make you people complaining complain even more. And this will only lead to the end of Heroes, which I don't want to see happen, I myself thought that this episode was really good the best episode since Cold Snap! And normally in any Tv show I hate flashback episodes but this was truly awesome!
April 15th, 2009 2:02 PM
I LIKED THAT IT ENLIGHTENED ME ON THE PAST, I DO WANNA SEE MORE FLASHBACKS, AURTHUR, KEITO, ADAM YADDA YADDA YADDA...BUT THINGS THAT I LONG TO SEE AND IM TELLING YOU WRITERS, FANS OF HEROES WANNA SEE...PETER WITH HIS POWERS BACK, A PETER VS SYLAR FIGHT, HIRO WITH HIS POWERS BACK, ACTION ACTION ACTION!!! THE NEXT ONE LOOKS LIKE A GOOD ONE, WHY YOU PIT PETER AGAINST SYLAR NOW WHEN HE ONLY HAS ONE POWER AT A TIME OR WHAT I LIKE TO CALL "THE DOORKNOB POWER" EVERY POWER GETS A TURN..I DONT KNOW..YOUR GONNA GET PETER KILLED AND THAT WOULD EXTREMELLY PESS FANS OFF. H'ES LIKE TO HEROES LIKE MICKEY IS TO DISNEY.
April 15th, 2009 2:55 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree F.D.. Being bothered with a kid and fearing for their lives are two totally different thigns in my mind, and if they were that concerned I still can't grasp their rationalising. Maybe they were just stupid teenagers, maybe I'm just disapointed cos prior to that decision I'd credited them with perhaps more intelligence than they deserved. Either way, it wasn't a bad episode there were just some contradictions to previous backstories (it wasn't made clear exactly how Chandra had his memory erased, seemingly, but still kept the files etc.) that personally irked me. It's still a great show, even the episodes I don't care for are miles ahead of other shows on telly at the mo. I jsut want to be blown away like I was with 'Cold Snap', I wasn't expecting such a wicked episode (hadn't seen one in ages!) and it restored my faith in the show, I just want that feeling every week.
April 15th, 2009 3:26 PM
We might learn in another flashback how Chandra lost his memory, and how he got his Coyote Sands data back.
From the Haïtian to Arthur Petrelli, there are many possiblities. Basically anything could've happened in the span of time where he participated in these experiments, and lost Chanti. There's certainly a reason Primatech held a Virus bearing her name. Chandra probably worked with them for a while before taking off to India, likely after being partly brainwashed.
They could make several whole seasons out of what happened between 1961 and the moment Arthur attempted to kill Nathan.
April 15th, 2009 6:21 PM
You guys have to remember that "plot holes" contained in this episode may be filled in and aexplained in those contained in the future, as some previous ones have been.
April 15th, 2009 6:21 PM
You guys have to remember that "plot holes" contained in this episode may be filled in and aexplained in those contained in the future, as some previous ones have been.
April 16th, 2009 12:35 PM
@Sezza80 There's one more thing that has slipped away from this convo: they were not fleeing. They retreated to discuss Angela's visions. Angela obviously planned to go back since she said "Alright, let's get Alice some socks then return to the camp." just before the radio aired the disaster.
So yea, it wasn't very clever to leave her sister behind especially after dreaming that Suresh kills everyone. But it looks like the group's plan was to avoid the massacre in the first place. Angela obviously didn't think it would happen so fast.
April 17th, 2009 11:42 AM
This is a foundation episode. It seems like it has no arch and was pointless, but hopefully after future episodes we'll look back on this one and enjoy it a lot more for what it set up and what it did inform us that we can't understand now.
April 17th, 2009 11:46 AM
Another question. So does Sylar need to touch the person he shifts into? 'Cause if so, when did he touch Nathan? Am I being forgetful,'cause I really don't remember him touching Nathan recently...
April 17th, 2009 3:41 PM
Thanks Courtney, I was just thinking that.
I wonder if the government has Nathan's DNA on file or something? Then Danko would be able to get it for Sylar. Presumaly he could morph into Nathan by touching something as simple as a hair or some blood... anything that came off Nathan really.
April 17th, 2009 10:43 PM
I enjoyed this one....finaly a reason for angela's sock fetish..lol
and i was thinking about Charles Devue's power..maybe he was a sponge like peter was,absorbing everyones powers?
April 18th, 2009 6:00 AM
I always suspected Charles had mental-based powers, because of the clues in Season One. It's just a shame really, because Matt's dad was telepathic. I wanted more diversity from the Company founders. Who would win in a telepathic fight between Charles and Maury Parkman?
Its a shame the episode didnt reveal more Company founders. Theres still a few more to go.
April 19th, 2009 5:50 PM
I really liked this episodes. It explained things from previous seasons and it built the foundations for the next season. The script was well written the actors well directed. Very good in my eyes. I agree with Abrown2382, you complain about so much and contradict your selves so much! This has been the best season so far, yes the ratings are down but that could be a number of things, should be put on a different day I think. but stop slagging this show off because its doing very well! The episodes in this season are so well written.
April 26th, 2009 3:16 PM
heyy, so me and my sister are HUGE heroes fans, we try to figure things out befor they happen and i think im on to something, she dosent but i thought i would ask you guys. so in this episode it shows three guys that are hitting on angla, do you think maybe one of them could be clares dad?