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Cautionary Tales

  1. Heroes Lover
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    well i think it was elle who had hrg saved with the blood infusion. as he told her for the first time of her past and that made her think a little. well and since no one else mentionned anything like that she might be courious about the truth.

    and i do think that claire and elle are sisters. as claire said she was rescued from a burning house as a baby and elle told peter that she once burned a house. so that might not only be co-incidence. on a other spoilers page i found an indication that claire and elle are related for sure and we will find out about later.

     

    and as the company does not care about people they may be sisters and given to different families to see how they develope.

     

    as for the adam relation i do not know. maybe he is the godfather of all of them. who knows...don't take me to serious on that one!

    Posted 11/20/2007 10:58:35 PM #
  2. Maj
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    ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC EPISODE.....Hiro's acting was absolutely perfect....i didnt know that hiro can do good drama acting other than his typical optimistic nerdy acting....really good.   Now its time for Hiro to take on Kensei...all i have to say is BRING IT ON...

    2 other really quick things now.

    1) Im starting to think that BOB is not a villan anymore...his acting and duties....he seems just like an ordinary company man..actually im beginning to think hes a good guy..and yes even though people might say that he could change...i dont see that coming anymore..

    2) Elle will in fact turn to the dark side....HRG is a pimp for manipulating her into realizing the truth...GOD HRG IS DA SH^T

    MOHINDER IS STILL DA SHIT ALSO...his good guy personality ROCKS!

     

    Posted 11/20/2007 11:02:01 PM #
  3. LxTrix
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    The point about Noah being brought back alive has been made too many times. Thats pretty fucking obvious. Its either The Company or Adam and more likely The Company sicne they had his body.

    Claire and Elle could be sisters then again Adam could be Claires real father and then again West's real dad could be Nathan. (They do both fly) I think it's strange how the other people in that picture dont have pictures. I think they all started the company and thats why Adam wants revenge. And we all know Adam is very key oon Revenge.

    I think Elle will come to Claire and see if she wants help to rescue her dad. I think Peter and Adam will go after the company as well. And they will all end up meeting. I don't think Peter and Hiro will have a battle. More or less a conversation that will put Peter on Hiros side again.

    Sylar doesn't have any powers so hes useless. Even though i wouldn't mind him taking out Mohinder since he also lost my respect. Maya and the other one seem useless. Their powers don't even make much sense. Monica is kinda useless too even though at first i thought she had a pretty cool power.

    Posted 11/21/2007 2:19:57 AM #
  4. Blackhawk6
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    Seriously,

    What purpose would it serve for Claire and Elle to be related?  What is the benefit to the story?  Too many people are related as is.  II thought the details of Claires childhood were pretty much stone cold locked.  Her mother basically admitted to burning the house down and taking off didn't she?  You also can't believe that everyone with similar powers is related...wouldn't that mean that maybe Nathan is West's Dad too???  Come on you guys....

    It's great to speculate - but don't ruin the ride.

    I feel like there is a bigger plan in the works.  HRG is entirely too smart to get himself killed by Mo-Hinderance.  At least I hope so.  I kind of think they had this planned (at least to a degree).  The thing you have to wonder now though, is what is Mohinderance' value now?  His blood doesn't work on the "virus" anymore so what good is he..?

    Here'a a few thoughts...

    What happens when Peter comes into contact with Mai-Jah?

    What is the purpose of showing Victoria Pratt if we never know who she is?

    Why haven't we realized that Parkman is actually the most powerful of them all?

     

    Posted 11/21/2007 8:59:47 AM #
  5. spoilers!
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    hey i have spoilers here.

    ok this is whats happening with the syler maya story. syler kill mayas brother  and then he kills maya. when he dousnt get there powers he thinks he never will. then he goess to mohinder to kill him in his anger. but mohinder hads got his first tast of blood and kills syler. but syler turns into a cockrouch and has his abilitys back the he kills mohinder. then hes walking along as a cockrouch and peter gets this sudden lerch of abilitys and steps on syler and kills him. i now how reterded this is but dont take it out on me take it out on the wrighters... how retarded are thew wrighters....!!!!

    Posted 11/21/2007 9:38:19 AM #
  6. Michael
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    I MEAN WTF takezo kensei/adam monroe gets pissed off because of hiro kissing his girl so much to the extent that he goes kill kaito and everyone else jus so he can get revenge because of a kiss

    Posted 11/21/2007 10:21:38 AM #
  7. Karl
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    This episode was so satisfying after how slow things have been leading up to it, such a shame the  ridiculous writers strike will likely end causing a 6+ month hiatas on the rest of the season but anyway.......

    Claire and Elle being related: I dont really care either way though there does seem to be a fair amount of incidental evidence to support the theory and the comments HRG made about not wanting claire to turn out like Elle.

    Kaito/Hiro: I liked how this was done I love Hiro's growth as a character, though Im sticking with my Hiro couldnt save his dad without removing his reason to go back and save him being negated.......however it would have been posssible provided he had the means to do so for Kaito to save himself so long as he still faked his death at least until after his funeral so Hiro still traveled back to warn him.  As for the preview shot of him holding a sword to peters neck doesnt take much to figure out since peter is working with Sam who killed Hiro's dad.

    The thing I really love is how the show deals with things in shades of grey, its extraordinarily difficult to paint anyone as simply a good or a bad guy.  The characters and even organizations like the company all recall obi wans "certain point of view line"  Even Sylar isnt so black and white sure he is a serial killer but from a purely biological point of view he is simply improving himself taking abilites from others who dont want them/dont make proper use of them/lack the control required to possess them (case in point Ted Sprague's ability niether he or Peter could/can control it properly while Sylar due to his personel power exhibited incredible control immediatly)/or simply do not deserve them.  Indeed I really hope that they explore that as development in Sylars character that anyone who is able to fight him off has proven the right to keep their powers just would be an interesting quirk.

    The Mohinder Hate: Now guys seriously put yourself in Mohinders shoes take away your more god like knowledge of events and your personel preferences for different causes and really the dude is just out of his depth all he really wants to do is continue his fathers work and help these people HRG was going to execute BOB simple as that what Bob has or hasnt done really doesnt factor into it he was going to execute Bob and Mohinder acted like his character would and I believe it was Claires blood used on HRG and the Mohinder would have been the one to put that into action.  Why would Bob save HRG?  To keep Mohinder happy which while not their top priority does seem to be important at least for the moment also with HRG in custody getting more of claires blood shouldnt be that hard.

    However I dont think Claires blood does cure the virus for 2 reasons 1) In the preview Niki is telling Mica ahe has the virus which could be occuring while the events of this episode were occuring or it could be that it was used to heal Noah but even if the majority was used on Noah they still would have put aside a small amount to test its effects on the mutated strain but as I say I dont thnk it works.        2) At the end of the graphic novel about maya it was implied that her ability perhaps being ultimatly a blessing wrapped in a curse using the whole learning the secret to keeping beneficial cells healthy by studying the immortal cancer cells, anyway look at it yourslf you will see what I mean, no I believe it will be Maya/Alejandro who end up curing the virus.

     

     

     

    Posted 11/21/2007 10:30:28 AM #
  8. Karl
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    Michael your not seeing it for what it is Hiro wasnt some random guy who came and pashed his girl.

    Hiro took the drunken and selfish Kensei and showed him how to be a better person, taught him to be a Hero, encouraged him to fall in love with Yaeko and always put it across as destiny as inevitable.  He gave Kensei cause to beleive in the better aspects of human nature and this virtual paragon turned around and proved that nobody is that noble it was all a lie the ultimate betrayal.

    Posted 11/21/2007 10:35:35 AM #
  9. Macca79
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    I have a question........

    On the roof when peter's mother and Hiro's father are talking he says "i'm getting on a plane to japan tonight, i suggest you do the same" or something similar. This seriously implies that he doesn't want to die as he is planning to get the hell out of there.

    Then when Hiro turns up and tell's him he's going to die (which let's face it he already knew) he goes all noble and says he's ready to die.

    I know that there is an argument for the whole you shouldn't change the past thing but to Hiro's dad it is the present, here and now. He and peter's mum already figured they were being targeted so why does he have the change of heart?

    Why not just go with Hiro and be alive?

    Posted 11/21/2007 12:15:24 PM #
  10. timjo311
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    Watch the episode again he clearly explains why he should die.

     

    It's his fate - and Hiro shouldn't let his emotions get in the way.

     

    Duh

    Posted 11/21/2007 2:02:52 PM #
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