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Fight or Flight

21. anu naki
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    I like your thoughts as well anon. I am too tired from long day at work too, so I will share more tomorrow. but just wanted to point out to Polaris that Mohinder really does have a power - remote viewing. He just hasn't realized it. He thinks he's just dreaming. He needs to develop it and it can become quite a powerful tool. Peter absorbed it and it helped him get answers from Charles Devauex. Isaac has a form of it, which, when you add his awesome art ability, you have a precognitive painter.

    The theory of Nathan being the killer of the elders picked up some steam with this episode.....any one notice how 'bad' he wanted to go with parkman to see this boogeyman? He seemed to have alterior motives. Like he just wanted Matt to lead him to him. He said "I can take care of myself" - which seems he's letting on (to us) that he has more tricks up his sleeve. He also kept doing to Matt what Mama Petrelli would always do to him - talk very assertively, touch the shoulder - affirm and remind of the directive. Very persuasive. He may have just inhereted this from mommy........just a thought.

    Posted 10/23/2007 2:26:29 AM #
22. daria
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    i wonder what mama petrelli's power is... and i wonder why Nathan and peter havent adressed this question yet. i bet they know, i bet they've always known something about their mom, but it either seems 'normal' to them or they're protecting her?.. maybe?

    if peter has 'remote veiwing' i dont think its from mohinder.... although i do think mohinder has another variation of it that peter picked up later.... but  peter was having wierd dreams even before he met mohinder.... like in the episode 'six months ago' when he dreams about his brothers crash and then wakes up to the phone call and finds out it actually happened....  maybe thats mama petrellis power? and then peter would have always kinda had it too, so he never thought much of it? i dont know.. just thoughts...

     

    and.... i miss west.... :)... i miss west a lot.

    mohinder is being dumb.. noah needs to come back and straighten him out.

    hiro should stop messing around in a time hes not supposed to be in.

    i was hoping to see syler abuse mayas powers...

    kristen bell's charecter annoys me.... i hate when girls try to be badass and cutesy at the same time... it just looks dumb... and really now? "i can take care of myself"... i want to see her try...

    matts dads power is amazing.... nightmares? worst fears? i'd hate to be faced with that..

    Posted 10/23/2007 8:49:31 AM #
23. Bamf
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    Does anyone else think maybe Benett has the power to teleport himself and others? The Haitian use to always just show up places and on the other episode there was just something about the way the Haitian asked Benett "how will you explain this to your family" and something about having to travel far...

    Posted 10/23/2007 9:41:11 AM #
24. Wayne
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    Even tho last nites episode was a bit slow hopefully when the season is all said and done every episode will have counted for something.

    The fight sequence between Matt and Nathan was awesome. 

    Posted 10/23/2007 9:45:38 AM #
25. Kal15
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    I thought this week's episode was a bit of a let down after the sheer awesomeness of last week's show, but it was still Heroes and was still quite intriguing. I agree about the fight sequence between Matt and Nathan. Very cool. I also loved the exchange between Matt and Nathan when they were discussing going to Philly together. I cracked up when Nathan commented that he's not a cargo jet. I'm not sold on Monica yet. The explanation of her powers could have been much shorter, which would have given some time for a bit of the Claire storyline, or to expand the Hiro/Kensei storyline a little more. That one is dragging on way too long. I was also hoping to see Nichelle Nicholls come forward with an explanation of Monica's powers and the responsibility that comes with it. As for the comic book question raised by another poster (sorry, for some reason I can't see the usernames of the posters), it said St. Joan on it, and is 9th Wonders, one of Isaac's books, the same series Hiro was reading in Season 1 as a guide for what he was supposed to do. I love that Peter is on his way to Montreal, and it was way cool to see him use Isaac's power again. The pending battle between him and Elle will be quite cool. And for the record, I initially believed Elle to be Bob's daughter but I'm second guessing that after sleeping on it. I'm thinking she's the daughter of Bob's boss, someone who is in the picture of 12 who we haven't met yet but is the de facto head of The Company. Although, and I'm just throwing this out there for those who believe that Kensei is Mr. Petrelli and possibly the killer, what if she is an illegitimate child of Mr. Petrelli, and thus a half-sibling of Peter and Nathan? Could make for an exciting conclusion. The best of the episode was Parkman's dad. I loved his sale job that he was being targeted, and the smirk on his face as he left the apartment was classic -- nice and smug with a little touch of pure evil. It was perfect. All in all, it wasn't a bad episode, jut not not my favourite. It's like a bridge episode to get us to the point where they will provide some answers, and it's one more episode out of the way before we get to Chapter 8: Four Months Ago.

    Posted 10/23/2007 11:22:02 AM #
26. emmtastic
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    i think all of the old generation are hiding something much more bigger than the boogeyman..like they know what would happened to their descendants if they abuse their powers like some of them did...Mama Petrelli sure has a power...as for now everybody that is from the OLD GENERATION has a power..Mr. Petrelli, Charles Deveaux, Linderman, Bob, Matt Parkman's Dad, Kaito, etc..

    Posted 10/23/2007 11:37:41 AM #
27. Lyndsey
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    So many characters are getting on my nerves with their stupid decisions!

    [rant]

    Matt had to be stupid and make Molly find the exact room of his dad (which is a little excessive imo) and then he trusts his dad enough to uncuff him and go in a strange room with him...smart! 

    Peter is more interested in making out with girls than in facing his past, which results in a nice Irish guy dying...oops.

    Claire is more interested in making out with some creepy cheesy guy than she is in protecting herself and her family, but oh well, I guess HRG will just die.  Stop being emo and grow up Claire!

    Hiro is staying back in time because of a girl he's not even making out with, and he's supposed to be the most heroic character who always puts the world first.

    Mohinder....well, where would I even start  :P  Also, I'm curious as to why letting Bob die didn't even cross his mind.  Seems like that would be a big step in taking the company down.

    [/rant]

    Anyways, I actually really liked this episode despite the lagging bits.  I think the Hiro storyline was so slow b/c they're trying to save the White Beard event for a certain episode, but didn't want to leave Hiro out again.

    I have no excuse for the Monica storyline lagging so much.  There was way too much camera time of Monica and MIcah smiling and laughing and hugging, but now that it's clear that they've bonded hopefully that'll be cut down. 

     

     

    Even though I don't think Kristen Bell did the best acting performance, I think she'll be an interesting character.  I think she over-acted because she wanted to come off as slightly twisted and crazy, which is hard to do subtley when you only have a small amount of camera time.  I think she'll be more believable once her character is more developed.  I'm also wondering if she has any direct relation to Claire, besides just being an interesting parallel...

     

    I thought the bogeyman plot was great this week, and I suspect that at some point there will be a father-daddy showdown since it seems like Matt is one of the few people who will be able to withstand his powers.  Also, I think Nathan is a really good actor!! His character is more subtle than most, and I think he pulls it off really well without being boring.  The look he gave Matt when he swiped all the stuff off his Dad's desk was perfect.

     

    Any thoughts on what's up with Niki btw? I thought it was implied at the end of last season that it was just Niki left, no Jessica! Does she have the virus and is relapsing? In which case, why wouldn't they tell Mohinder she has it.  So many mysteries!

    Nothing is predictable in this show, it makes me crazy!

    PS Any thoughts on how all these plot threads will tie together? We have the Kensei, boogeyman, Monica, Peter, Maya, Company, and HRG plotlines right now, and so far they're fairly separate.  I know it's all gonna come together, but I have NO idea how. 

    Posted 10/23/2007 4:25:23 PM #
28. blop
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    "mohinder is being dumb.. noah needs to come back and straighten him out."

    I totally want to see HRG beat the crap out of Mohinder.

    "Any thoughts on what's up with Niki btw? I thought it was implied at the end of last season that it was just Niki left, no Jessica!"

    Yeah, that's what I though too.....

     

    I agree, Nathan's doing a great job acting.

    Also, interesting idea someone that HRG can teleport. Although once again they would be recycling powers....

    Also, did nobody remember that the guy who took Kaito off the edge was NOT Matt's dad? I think someone suggested there's an even higher evil than the boogeyman, and I totally agree.

     

    Posted 10/23/2007 5:34:25 PM #
29. Jonjones
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    I thought that the only good story line of this episodes was matt and nathans and Elle and Peter. I don't care what you say but i thought Kristen did a really good job. She was supposed to come off as a twisted being chirpy but dark at the same time, which she did really well. I dont think she got near as enough screen time as she should have, especially since they hyped her character up so much. I have seen her work and stuff and shes a really good actress. MOHINDER IS SUCH A MORON. How stupid can you get. Matt and Nathans fight was cool but Matt was being such a wuss with his dad. Hiro's story is pissing me off, he needs to come back to the future. I think that the episode was good, but only cuz of Kristen and Milo story line.

    Posted 10/23/2007 6:40:57 PM #
30. Genesis
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    well parkman has to get cracking at develop his powers so he can give the boogeyman a taste of his on medicine.

     

     

    also i think that it makes alot of sense that peters mom had the power to see things in dreams, like i remember when perter told her he knew when nathan had crashed she slapped him almost like he was on to something so i think that  is angelas powers.

    Posted 10/23/2007 9:22:26 PM #